Do the Animals do Drugs?

Obviously they do, but i mean now, because Noah has a wife and a kid, I'm sure Avey does becuase of the hard times he is going through now, I don't know about geologist. Who gives a shit about deakin...
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  • I give a shit about Deakin! I don t give a shit about the subject of your post! ¿Who care if they still do?
  • well drugs have an interesting effect on music. to me it seems like they were definitely under the influence of something in the early days, just listen to Danse Manatee, Here Comes the Indian, Sung Tongs, etc. I know people are different, but how can someone possibly make that kind of music sober? Now I feel like their music is becoming more accessible and poppy because they may have decreased their drug use.
  • I think drugs and musicians and music are three separate things. They can go together but its not necessary. That being said, they probably still get high and drink from time to time they don't need to in order to make super psychedelic music. Down There sounds awesome high and sober, so he could have made it stoned, or sober. Drug use diminishes with age...sometimes...because the more you do it the more you realize the down sides. I do think is is a valid conversation topic and would appreciate wolfy's input.
  • They definitely said in an interview that they all were doing much less drugs than they used to. So, to answer your question: 1) Yes 2) But not as much
  • [quote]Who gives a shit about deakin...[/quote] haha! this random outburst! (ban him! BAD VIBES!)
  • yeah, whoa! I love Deakin... as for drugs I don't really care if they do drugs or not nor do I find it that important. I really don't think that you have to do drugs to make music that is really out there. I think that's a horrible thing to say. And to assume that Avey does drugs just because he's going through a hard time kind of...offends me? If they do drugs than that's fine but I guess it just kind of bothers me how people have to connect drugs with certain albums when I don't think that part of it really matters...but I understand that a lot of peopel do it (not saying that you do) to make a connection with them if they do that drug. Back when I did drug I definitely found it 'cool' when I knew an artist did a certain drug while making an album and that I enjoyed it too. So maybe it would be more fair for me to say, this topic doesn't matter to me or interest me and then drop out of the conversation from here on in because it might interest and matter to some of you. Not to sound like a dick.
  • [quote="Maps"]They definitely said in an interview that they all were doing much less drugs than they used to. So, to answer your question: 1) Yes 2) But not as much[/quote] There we go. That's all I wanted to know. I'm not trying to start an argument with anybody
  • I WANNA EAT DRUGS!!!!!!!!!
  • i wanna lick deeks!
  • he's sucha sad sexy vampire! [img]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6725/deeksvamp.jpg[/img]
  • i lol'd hard at the who gives a shit about deakin haha and @ the person talking about making crazy sounding music and drugs... I haven't heard all of what he's created but I know Zappa has made some real offbeat, experimental stuff - and he was very anti-drug use.
  • oh yeah... animals do drugs... *injects heroin into his dog*
  • my dog's more of a crack fiend
  • Can I move this thread please?
  • Deakin is awesome!!! Just saying
  • [quote="winilula"]Can I move this thread please?[/quote] Are you asking me? You can
  • back when there was no animal collective i'm sure they did drugs. i'm also pretty sure that there is a chance they practiced some of their songs on drugs but with the exception of indian i can tell you they didn't take drugs and start recording/mixing. you wouldn't be able to mix anything on drugs because drugs alter your perception of sound and although somethings might sound really cool as you're making them on drugs they sound different after you come down. now adays they might smoke weed every once inawhile but i think its safe to say they don't trip out anymore. there is a chance that they may have been on drugs during their live performances of HCTI material. since this album was recorded live they might have been on drugs for it.
  • haha... why are you so insistent that indian was some damn druggy THING!
  • Why do you love slippi so much? Why do I want to sniff avey? Why do birds suddenly appear every time you are near? Why ask why? Why not? Whee!
  • i was merely pointing out that they could have been on drugs during their performance. after doing a little more research i learned that HCTI was recorded live over three days and i think if i had three different shows to play in three days i would not be on drugs. but overall HCTI just reminds me of some dark places drugs have taken me to
  • Wow I had no idea that was a live album. I always imagined them on stage while listening to it though.
  • Personally i really hope they don't do very much. Especially avey, i totally know he does, but hes an idol of mine and it collides with my personal scruples about drugs. I just like to think they are sober when i jam to them. haha
  • you don't like the drugs BUT THE DRUGS LIKE YOU! and abu! just the idear that avey was all good at maths and then started tripping out in malls and suddenly math didn't seem very interesting to him any more... what was that story? he warped his brain and went slightly insane but i guess we'd never have gotten all that ac goodness had he not! who's to say!
  • Woah that sounds super interesting. where'd you hear that from?
  • i have my sources! (no, i don't remember it quite right... i swear he said something on the old Collected Animals board about being really good at math and post-druggies losing interest... he made it sound like it wasn't a big deal but somehow it seemed kind of sad! ... not tragik or anything) god i shouldn't have say anything!
  • You shouldn't have! Because you've created.. Qs! I'll keep them on a leash, but why do you think avey and (i think i heard of one of the other members doing it) stopped posting? I heard that they used to, and just seemed to fade out. Living the glorious life, no room for internets? Or maybe the opposite.
  • all four band members posted on collected animals! which was... just surreal... even in 2005 it felt crazy... the fact they kept doing it all the way past person pitch / strawberry jam? ... i can't believe it lasted that long! i think they just kept getting overloaded with more and more questions... because they kept getting bigger, so more people were curious... so they got repetitive questions... and also really lame or dumb questions... and i think it just got to be too much... all of the stuff they answered and stories and insights were truly a damn gift! ... we were lucky to get that and i was happy to be a part of it [back in the DAY!] yeah i think it pretty much stopped when collected animals blew up and went on to it's 3rd version... like Feb 08 so all that lasted nearly THREE YEARS! jeez! the lead singer of FLEET FOXES still posts on my little radiohead board [and everyone knows it is him!] ... that still boggles my mind a bit... i mean they had the #1 album on pitchfork in 08? and yet he's there giving exclusive insider updates to his band! (i'm not even really a fan of his band but greatly respect that and think that it is cool!)
  • but yeah i'd say Geo def. posted the most [under Veyesor] and then Avey strangely [under Wheeter] and then much less was DEEKS and PANDER noah was amusing in the earlier days of 05 because he kept starting his posts with HEY DUDES and when people started getting too mean to each other he'd declare their to be BAD VIBES i still find both those little catch phrases HIGHLY amusing!
  • yeah deakin was the last to leave in '08 he's super awesome because you can still ask him questions on his facebook page and he almost always answers.
  • well if AC take drugs then all they are doing is influencing their music the raw talent has always been there but maybe the drugs has been a side relaxation and past time just because their music is diverse and psychadelic that doesnt mean that they have to be drug users it just means that they are one of the few who have the talent that break the conventional and mainstream music that is around now adays and im not having a go either i am just voicing taht ultimatly AC do not have to take drugs to make the music they do and maybe if they do they only take them recreationally but no-one knows also in further thought i paint and draw very wierd and psychadelic art but im not under the influence of drugs so it just gos to show really and im not saying i dont take drugs cos i do but only recreationally not to boost the wierdness of my art <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/smile-1.gif" alt=":)" title=":)" /><!-- s:) --> PEACE OUT
  • I heard that they used to, But gave it up. I really would care if they did do drugs as I don't do them and consider them as a form of weakness. Sure, We may fall along the way, Etc..., But why throw your life away by doing something that is corrupting and pointless? <!-- s:down: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/down.gif" alt=":down:" title="down" /><!-- s:down: --> What bothers me is that when people hear this kind of music, They automatically think drugs. Seriously, Grow something in that head of yours. Just because weird music is being played, Doesn't mean that someone is on drugs.
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  • I agree with you 100%
  • [quote="Immortal_Apathy"]I heard that they used to, But gave it up. I really would care if they did do drugs as I don't do them and consider them as a form of weakness. Sure, We may fall along the way, Etc..., But why throw your life away by doing something that is corrupting and pointless? <!-- s:down: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/down.gif" alt=":down:" title="down" /><!-- s:down: --> What bothers me is that when people hear this kind of music, They automatically think drugs. Seriously, Grow something in that head of yours. Just because weird music is being played, Doesn't mean that someone is on drugs.[/quote] I agree with wolftigrrosebud AND you. wolf, i haven't heard of that before, so thanks for making that point. I probably think drugs are silly as Apathy does, but i'll consider what you've said. Alot of people i know that do drugs really don't have any back up into why its OK. I disagree still, but i see your point.
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  • well drugs to me like evryone has affected someone i know in this case the people who i call friends are drugs mad they arent happy with the latest drug. i am out to try every drug par heroin i just want the feel and the experience and i am an extroverted individual and extremelly unconventional with a very creative mind if i was to take acid then i would like to know what the trip would be like, i remember when i took magic mushrooms and the effect was magnifecent i was imagining people with animal heads and the animals depended on peoples personallities like my friend he is really sly he had a rat as a head, what i am saying is that once i tried the drug i dont see the need to do it in excess i had the trip once, it was magnifecent and i dont need to take it again the only drug i would now take up is weed i used to smoke weed twice a week and i really enjoyed it. but then again i know how to put the joint down and continue with life as in i never picked up the weed in the first place, but ultimatly i would like to express that i think animal collectives talent is raw talent and is not produced by the use of drugs and like i said before if they did take drugs maybe it was recreationally we will never know, but all i know is that AC make some mind blowing music and songs and that matters to me, what doesnt matter to me is if they take drugs, if one of them is a convicted murderer, if they are gay, or if they all pick thier nose. this isnt a rant this is just my opinion <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/smile-1.gif" alt=":)" title=":)" /><!-- s:) --> the shadows
  • [quote="wolftigerrosebud"]Well, I wasn't trying to say that it's simply ok. For one thing, drug use is ok for some people and not ok for others. For people like me, it isn't ok, because if I get high once I have trouble stopping. For most people who aren't addicts, it's fine to use them once in a while. For anyone using them [i]all the time[/i], it melts your brain and makes you stupid, plus you don't get any of the benefits if you're getting high every single day. Now, if you're getting high with good friends every month or two, that's entirely different. There are no harmful effects from, say, smoking pot, if you're using it irregularly and using it in a way that isn't hurting your lungs (like vaporization. When pot is vaporized, it actually works against cancer cells and is beneficial to one's health). Saying that using drugs is ok or that it isn't is too simplistic to cover the things that go along with drug use. I know people who have died from drug use, and I know people who use occasionally and without going to excess.[/quote] I wrote this nice long post and only the quotes showed up. =/ but i guess in a nutshell what i was explaining is that i really respect your look on it, and i haven't heard it from any of my friends who do do drugs. plus i think my opinion on drugs has been changed a bit by that. +1 for you.
  • I like hearing mature opinions on drugs like wolf's. I tend to have this kind of instinctual resentment for drugs, but I think it's mostly because when I think of drugs I think of teenagerdom, which I have this immense hate for (haven't figured that out yet). I think drugs can be fine but just adults should do them. I dunno.
  • yeah wolfy said that all wonderfully. He pretty much expressed my views on drugs to a tee. I don't smoke pot anymore because it turns me into a nervous blubbering idiot who can't express herself. As for all the other drugs well I think they're pretty rotten. Especially the new trend of prescription drugs being used in excess/without a prescription. I guess I find that drugs like shrooms are alright for someone once in a while but after using drugs heavily for two+ years I really feel like its been pretty rough on my brain and my being and I want nothing to do with any of them.
  • well said tigers well said <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/smile-1.gif" alt=":)" title=":)" /><!-- s:) --> i used to smoke weed all the time it was awesome but i learnt to cut down now i do it every few months <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/smile-1.gif" alt=":)" title=":)" /><!-- s:) -->
  • [quote="wolftigerrosebud"][quote="Immortal_Apathy"]I heard that they used to, But gave it up. I really would care if they did do drugs as I don't do them and consider them as a form of weakness. Sure, We may fall along the way, Etc..., But why throw your life away by doing something that is corrupting and pointless? <!-- s:down: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/down.gif" alt=":down:" title="down" /><!-- s:down: --> What bothers me is that when people hear this kind of music, They automatically think drugs. Seriously, Grow something in that head of yours. Just because weird music is being played, Doesn't mean that someone is on drugs.[/quote] Like someone else said, they don't take drugs so much anymore, but they're not tea-totalers. Also, I'm a little hurt by your assertion that drugs are a "sign of weakness", even though what you've said is a wee bit too black and white to be taken seriously, and even though I don't do drugs anymore. There's value in experiences from consciousness-expanding chemicals, and there's bad things that go along with those experiences if they're not done in moderation, but it's not as simple as drug use being a sign of weakness, corruption, and lack of interest in one's life. It's a rather harsh judgment you've issued there, and I wonder where it's coming from and why. In any case, many people, including some whose ideas enhance your life, have used psychedelic or other drugs and done wonderful things, the AC included. The way psychedelics seem to work for most people is that you do them, they show you stuff, they show you some more stuff, then you've gotten all you can out of them. Some people get hung up on doing them, but many get what they can and move on, maybe returning from time to time for an additional taste. Seems like maybe the AC got what they could out of consciousness-expanding things, drugs included, and moved on.[/quote] Yeah, That's true. Well, I've never done any illicit drugs and would never care to. I've seen how it screws people up and I just don't find drugs to be something I would ever care to touch. People do them for different reasons, Such as recreational use, Or because of depression, Etc... So I can understand why people do them. I just wish that they would broaden their outlets in a more positive standpoint and understand that consequences lye with drugs. The same goes for pills as well. A drug is a drug. People think that oh, Well, It's okay, I will just do mushrooms or whatever just this once to [i]try[/i] it. The next thing they know, They are addicted to their drug of choice and that is when the cycle begins. I apologize for sounding so harsh. It's just that I don't like drugs, But that doesn't mean to hate those that do. I just hate to see them destroying themselves when there are other things to do that are worthwhile.
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  • that's a very insightful explaination, wolfy, and I have to agree with your analysis.
  • hmmmmmm analysis ...................
  • anal lies THIS! [img]http://phillyist.com/attachments/philly_jill/analyze_this.jpg[/img] <!-- s>__< --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/mad.gif" alt=">__<" title="mad" /><!-- s>__< -->
  • >___< I love animal collective sober, I love animal collective high, I love animal collevtive anywhere in between, I'll love animal collective till the day I die! However I do get an urking feeling whenever someone immediately relates animal collective with drugs, they clearly Don't Know What There All About. Their more of a spiritual band for me than anything. Plus I don't listen to music to enhance a high. I get high from time to time to enhance the music. Big Difference
  • i don't know i think that when some people relate animal collective to drugs that its just the way the music makes them feel and what memories are brought to mind i think that the music was put out for people to listen to and absorb. the reaction depends on the person. there are animal collective songs that bring drugs to my mind as well as a lot of other things.
  • I don't think drugs are a practical or acceptable way of enjoying yourself. Play badminton, or watch TV. Don't fuck your brain and guts up with strange, illegal chemicals.
  • "Play badminton" yes! BAD MITTEN! "or watch TV" YES! people who think they're "So Hip" by saying I DON'T WATCH TV... hoho! /// i still regret that i never glistened to HERE COMES THE INJUN while STONED... gah! i can't even imagine!
  • why has wolf been deleting all his posts and replacing them with smileys?
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